Comments on: Christian Photographer Who Refused Gay Wedding Lost Lawsuit

By: Breaking. Prop 8.... struck down. - Page 27 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:05:12 +0000

[...] "forced" to participate in gay weddings? Participate, or PAY! Here's just one example: Christian Photographer Who Refused Gay Wedding Lost Lawsuit | Scott Fillmer __________________ "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution [...]

By: Right As Usual » Religion and the Same-Sex Marriage Push

Right As Usual » Religion and the Same-Sex Marriage Push — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:09:46 +0000

[...] There was that Christian photographer in New Mexico, who declined to document a same-sex couple’s nuptials, who was brought before a commission [...]

By: The Bride Wore … Wait, Which One Is the Bride? | Freedom at Bethsaida

The Bride Wore … Wait, Which One Is the Bride? | Freedom at Bethsaida — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:47:18 +0000

[...] your services to a homosexual couple, you may find yourself on the wrong end of a lawsuit. A photographer in New Mexico was sued for refusing to shoot a gay wedding … and lost! Really? I can’t just decide [...]

By: poorlyendowedwhiteguy

poorlyendowedwhiteguy — Tue, 03 May 2011 02:14:54 +0000

Peter, while you might sell books that fall under the categories “New Age”, “Religious”, etc., out of a respect of other people’s beliefs, there is no law mandating that you do so.

Similarly, there really shouldn’t be a law mandating that photographers cater to people of all walks of life. The analogy of the food vendor doesn’t hold up, as food is essential for life. A good food vendor can drive other vendors out of business and obtain a monopoly in the area – if he does so and then refuses to serve certain people, that refusal impinges severely on the refusees’ ability to continue their lives unhindered.

Photography is not one of life’s necessities, and so photographers should not be treated the same as food vendors. A photographer’s refusal to take a job does not severely impinge on an engaged couple’s ability to live their lives unhindered.

Moreover, following your argument to its natural end, boycotts ought to be illegal. After all, as long as the boycottee is operating within the law, they too are entitled to their beliefs, and the boycotter’s beliefs ought not be imposed on them.

By: Ted Adams

Ted Adams — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:18:12 +0000

If a photographer is forced to comply against their religious beliefs, it is against their conduct. How can one do a good job if one is forced against what is believed is wrong. I cannot do a good job and I do just the minimum when I am forced to go against my will. Religious beliefs are deeply held inside one’s being and to try and force against a person means that others can lesson life for that individual. I know that it seems that religious beliefs are chosen, and not important to many people, but to those of us who are religious it is very much a part of our whole life and affects what we do. So conduct against what we hold deeply belittles us and many of us will quit and the loss of religious people especially nurses and doctors as well as other businesses will affect us all. Sure there is the argument about a nation of laws, but those laws used to take in conduct on basic grounds all religions and non-religious people relied on. Now we who are religious are counted as scum of the earth. Don’t expect us to take these areas lying down.
So to say, we cannot force people against their conscience to perform services with someone who we disagree with. It is the same as the Inquisition of the middle ages and enslaves all of us.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:13:46 +0000

As a photographer in a mostly gay and lesbian city (LA) I have never been sued by any client that I have denied but then again I’ve never said I wouldn’t shoot a wedding or anything else for that matter because of my believes. Most of my denials have been through price or schedule conflicts. Basically if you don’t really want to shoot someone or something you as a photographer have the option to deny by many means. One way is to say you don’t have an opening, another way would be to price the job soooo high that no sane person would hire you. Simple huh? Again this has nothing to do with gay and lesbians. Most of my good friends are either or and are normal people like most of us and they are also in business and practice the same techniques as I do.

When the wall of rock is too high to go over you go around it!

By: Update on Willock vs Elane Photography Refusing Gay Wedding | Scott Fillmer :: Truth, Tech, Testimony, and Art

Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:05:39 +0000

[...] wanted to go ahead and post an update to my post called Christian Photographer Refused Gay Wedding and Lost Lawsuit where the NM State Commission ruled against a photographer who refused to shoot a non-traditional [...]

By: Christian friends of gays and lesbians - Page 28 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Fri, 06 Aug 2010 22:34:30 +0000

[...] not SCOTUS. If you don't think this can happen, then you may not have heard about this case: Christian Photographer Refused Gay Wedding, Lost Lawsuit | Scott Fillmer :: Truth, Tech, Testimony, … Quote: In January 2008 Elane, a freelance photographer who owns Elane Photography, refused to [...]

By: MarkP

MarkP — Thu, 13 May 2010 21:17:31 +0000

I think some of you missed a very important point. Elaine advertised itself as a photography studio. Not a Christian photography studio offering services to Christians. Then, they might have been able to define their market offering.

WIthout out ithis type of classification, they are open for business to anyone that crosses their door step. Public access laws were created for this reason.

They created a photography business, and Wlicox approached them for photography services… not Christian photography services.

Someone in this string stated, “:when you put out a shingle, be ready to serve all that show up”.

By: Judge Napolitano: Is social conservatism bad for America?- The Right Scoop

Judge Napolitano: Is social conservatism bad for America?- The Right Scoop — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:12:21 +0000

[...] [UPDATE: Just to clarify, what I mean by discrimination against me would be me losing my right to photograph who I choose. For example, if I get sued for not photographing a gay couple based on the fact that I only photograph traditional ceremonies, and I lose, I am penalized by law with some sort of monetary fee. Therefore I am losing my right to photograph who I please in lou of giving a gay couple the right to penalize me for disagreeing with their lifestyle. How is this fair? This has happened before and you can read about it here.] [...]